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  • Danny Roth
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    Kinda dumb question but I keep seeing 1.4G and 1.3G thrown around and honestly can’t nail down where the line is. Is it just size/powder limits or is it a whole different legal category? Do you need an ATF license to even touch 1.3G, or is there like a middle ground for hobbyists? I’m mostly into consumer stuff but getting curious about what a step up actually involves before I go down that rabbit hole.

    Lisa Martinez
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    It’s a legal category thing more than just size. 1.4G is the consumer stuff you buy at a tent or store, limited to 500g cakes, 60g shells (plus a few other rules). 1.3G is display/professional and yeah you need a federal explosives license from the ATF to buy, store or shoot it. There’s no real ‘hobbyist middle ground’ legally — you either got the type 54 license (or an exemption like some states’ shooter permits) or you don’t. It’s a decent chunk of paperwork and an inspection, not just filling out a form.

    Mike Brenner
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    Tina’s right. And tbh the powder limits on 1.3G shells are way higher — you’re talking shells measured in inches (3″, 4″, 6″ and up) vs consumer 1.75″. Once you shoot a real 6″ canister you kinda get why it needs a license lol. If you’re genuinely interested, look up ATF type 54 ‘fireworks importer/distributor’ — it covers personal display use too, it’s not only for businesses.

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